[Dojo-interest] jQuery and the long term viability of Dojo

Dylan Schiemann dylan at dojotoolkit.org
Mon Apr 30 23:38:35 EDT 2012

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As far as long-term viability, we're committed to see Dojo through
indefinitely. Perhaps some of the presentations at
http://www.slideshare.net/sitepen are useful also? Also, projects like
http://dgrid.io/ show off some of the new modules and features we've
been busily creating.

Dojo Campus is basically dead. Instead we've put the effort into the
Dojo docs. For example, all 55 tutorials at
http://dojotoolkit.org/documentation/ were written within the past year.

Most book authors that I've talked to are waiting for version 2.0 before
updating their books. If I had the time, I'd consider writing a new Dojo
book, but I don't unfortunately.

We (SitePen) haven't updated the Why Dojo post because we don't think
it's that interesting of a question that it needs a regular update. If
there's strong value in having that post updated regularly, we're happy
to do so.

As far as slowly dying on the vine, I think Dojo is in a better position
than it was a year ago. We had some growing pains and architectural
challenges that we needed to overcome. In the past year, we've made some
major changes (the AMD refactor), added the tutorials, seen a
significant rise in adoption (this is based on apps I've seen from
companies), and won a couple of awards along the way.

We as a project have a lot of work to do to get our 1.8 and 2.0 releases
out the door and continue to improve the project as a whole. I think
it's an exciting time to start using Dojo, and while we may never be the
#1 toolkit from a popularity perspective, we will be a thriving a viable
concern for many years to come.

- -Dylan (co-founder of Dojo)

on 4/30/12 7:41 PM (GMT-07:00) Mogul Buster said the following:
> My dev team is about to start a from-scratch effort to replace an
> existing Flash-based web site with one that uses
> HTML5/CSS3/JavaScript.  I've read many comments on the relative
> merits of jQuery vs Dojo, and they seem to boil down to two basic
> themes:
> a)  jQuery is overwhelming more popular than all other JS
> libraries/toolkits combined b)  Dojo is better suited for industrial
> strength web apps than jQuery.
> Given (b) above it would seem that Dojo would be a better choice for
> our new web app.  However, despite a steady stream of Dojo updates
> over the past year, some members of my team argue that interest in
> Dojo is waning; some signs of this include:
> 1) Flatline for Dojo in Google trends, even before discounting
> overlap with other uses of the word "Dojo"; this is particularly
> damning given the steady growth of jQuery. 2) No new Dojo books in
> almost 4 years 3) Dojocampus.org doesn't appear to have been updated
> in over 2 years 4) Two of the three companies listed on
> Dojocampus.org as offering "professional Dojo support" make no
> mention of Dojo on their respective web sites (Sitepen is the loan
> holdout). 5) Even Sitepen's "Why Dojo?" page was last updated in
> 2009, except for a comment that the page is "a bit dated".
> All this would seem to hint that Dojo is slowly dying on the vine,
> making it a tough sell vs jQuery. Can anyone here speak to the
> long-term viability of Dojo?
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