[dojo-contributors] Dojo & Mobile - devs needed

Tom Trenka ttrenka at gmail.com
Tue Oct 5 11:47:27 EDT 2010


Charting will run just fine on anything supporting SVG or Canvas on mobile
as is; I don't know that we'd need anything special for mobile.

-- Tom

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 9:11 AM, Adam L. Peller <adam at peller.org> wrote:

> How far is dojox.charting from running on mobile?  I'd be thrilled if
> we didn't have to fork the codebases for dojox.mobile.  wrt grid, I
> wonder if a simple pagination widget based on the new data stores
> would be sufficient?  Code size here would be a major factor.  Such a
> light widget could also be popular on the desktop.  Perhaps this fits
> into the new grid architecture, but I worry that it would be difficult
> to meet conflicting goals of code size and flexibility.
>
> -Adam
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> 2010/10/5 Evan Huang <evanhuangwei at gmail.com>:
> > Hi Shane,
> > Recalling this thread, I just got some new thoughts, please correct me if
> > any inappropriateness(sorry for getting back late as I only recently got
> a
> > chance to explore the emerging mobile world):
> > So how about adding following two pieces to our mobile plan? If possible
> I'd
> > like to spend my partial time on them after v.1.6(will need to get
> support
> > from my boss ;-) )
> > 1. dojox.mobile.Gird
> > 2. dojox.mobile.Charting
> > I think both of them are very important to mobile, will help us catch up
> and
> > may also help make dojox.mobile outstanding(at least I haven't seen any
> > similar activities yet in JQTouch, ShenCha...)
> > For #1, we may try to leverage the in-progress new Grid work to figure
> out a
> > lightweight mobile version(still = core + a smaller set of features)
> > For #2, more discussions are still needed, but since we've already got an
> > excellent dojox.charting framework, we may start by reusing the canvas
> impl
> > with possible changes to make it more suitable for mobile.
> > It's still not clear yet but I hope we could reuse most corresponding
> code
> > in desktop version for #1 and #2. Once the interesting touch & gesture
> event
> > layer were ready, we can then plug it in since HTML event handling is
> > already separately encapsulated in new Grid(FIXME - the same for
> Charting?)
> > As discussed previously, in the future we may have two typical
> > usage scenario for dojox.mobile:
> >     1. Within html page in mobile browsers
> >     2. Run as native app in mobile(with help from some cool tools like
> > PhoneGap),
> > I'm optimistic that mobile Grid & Charting will apply well for the both
> > cases.
> > Most importantly, since mobile Grid & Charting both require significant
> > efforts, we really need to ensure they worth the investment before hand.
> > At last, following below are some existing mobile chartings, though most
> of
> > them are still native app specific to a certain platform, I think we can
> get
> > some inspiration anyway.
> > http://designingwebinterfaces.com/mobile_chart_options
> > http://www.zingchart.com/flash-and-html5-canvas/#compatibility
> > http://www.keepedge.com/
> > http://code.google.com/p/core-plot/
> > http://code.google.com/p/s7graphview/
> > http://www.componentone.com/SuperProducts/StudioMobile/
> > http://www.artfulbits.com/Android/aiCharts.aspx
> > http://www.tmssoftware.com/site/mobilechart.asp
> > http://www.igindex.co.uk/spread-betting/mobile-charts.html
> > Regards!
> > - Evan
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> > On 8/18/10 12:43 AM, Shane O'Sullivan wrote:
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I'm very worried about Dojo and the mobile space.  As far as I can
> >> see, we are still lacking anything resembling a cohesive strategy, and
> >> are falling further and further behind.
> >>
> >> I appreciate that everyone is busy, and that this economy is forcing
> >> everyone, me included, to focus on their day jobs.  However, unless
> >> enough people are interested in making Dojo a killer on mobile, and
> >> have the time to donate, we might as well just admit we're going to
> >> focus on desktop and leave it be.
> >>
> >> I think dojox.mobile is a great start, and I very much want to make it
> >> (under whatever moniker) the best mobile toolkit out there.  The work
> >> the Uxebu guys are doing to customize Dojo for each platform is great
> >> too, and very much needed.
> >>
> >> However, what users want is a solid framework and great widgets.  We
> >> don't have them yet, and at the current rate, I don't think we will
> >> have them this side of 2012.
> >>
> >> So, I'm willing to put a good amount of my time into dojox.mobile, but
> >> unless others have time to contribute it'll never be anything close to
> >> world class.  At the recent London mobile meet we had a good
> >> discussion about where Dojo should go, but unfortunately no one
> >> offered to actually write code for dojox.mobile.
> >>
> >> Can I get a show of hands?  Alternatively, a simple "I don't have the
> >> time" will do too.  I need to know if I'll be wasting my time on a
> >> project that no one else has time to work on, or if there are 4 or 5
> >> others who have the scope to build something great.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Shane
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