[dojo-contributors] Forums to Die, Mail vote.

Nikolai Onken nikolai at nikolaionken.com
Fri May 29 06:35:11 EDT 2009

Sorry, but I have to refine my vote:

+1: on getting rid of the forums

As Tom wrote:

2. We provide some sort of web interface off the site, as opposed to  
trying to direct people to an email client.

if we don't provide the user with an interface besides the email  
client (that doesn't include adding an interface some day in the  
future, people need the interface now), concider my vote to be -1 as  


On May 29, 2009, at 7:57 AM, Nikolai Onken wrote:

> -1
> On May 29, 2009, at 1:10 AM, Peter E Higgins wrote:
>> Hi Developers,
>> The time has come to end this discussion. We've been having it for
>> quite some time, and it is apparent that _something_ must happen in
>> the immediate future as our users are suffering from a number of
>> different issues.
>> We all can agree to this point on the following:
>> a) Multiple static support outlets is not helping anyone.
>>   * We're dividing our already overworked developers into forums and
>> mailing lists, signficantly reducing the participation in either.
>> b) The usability of the Drupal Forums is poor.
>> c) E-mail is future proof.
>> So, at last night's meeting we had a healthy discussion
>> [dojo.deathmatch(ftw)] trying to come to a consensus. The summary is,
>> more or less:
>> The forums need to go away. We need to make them read-only, and
>> clearly direct everyone to the mailing list. This needs to happen
>> immediately and precisely so there are no confused users during the
>> transition and no one wondering where to find support. We want to  
>> keep
>> email, as it is the preference of the majority and has been reliable
>> for years now.  The idea is to pick an email outlet and work from
>> there on the interface, either adopting groups or nabble, but
>> ultimately tie it into whatever email system we pick.
>> So I'm proposing a vote on the more specific issue of what to do
>> _after_ we discontinue the forums. The vote is:
>> Vote to continue using the existing in-house mailing lists, while
>> allowing external interfaces via the users choice of software (nabble
>> or similar software to be linked to from dtk.org and people can use
>> email or other options).  In the future we are open to providing
>> additional interfaces either internally or externally as appropriate.
>> Dojo-interest will be renamed and/or split into 1 or more mailing
>> lists as deemed appropriate by discussion and/or voting (or we can
>> stick wit t he dojo-core/dijit/dojox if desired).  All existing
>> mailing list users will automatically be integrated into this
>> process.  Archives will continue as they are and can be styled  
>> further
>> in the future if desired or left as they are (and pretty standard
>> among mailing list archives)
>> Your votes will be weighted based on participation in either the
>> forums or mailing lists. I'm +1, which is more +5ish ;)
>> Regards,
>> Peter
>> -- 
>> Peter E Higgins
>> Dojo Project Lead : http://dojotoolkit.org
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