[dojo-contributors] Re: Draft: Unified 2D graphics subsystem for Dojo

Eugene Lazutkin eugene at lazutkin.com
Wed Jun 7 01:34:51 EDT 2006

Tom Trenka wrote:
> I'm thinking  (and hoping) that parts of this translation will be 
> Dojo-specific, in that attach points will be preserved.  If I do it 

What are attach points? Are they logical entities (e.g., nodes), which 
are preserved during transformation?

> I think that we should pursue both paths as well; there's nothing wrong 
> with having both a procedural and a declarative API, as long as they 
> cooperate.  Of course, my end goal is that vector definitions are done 
> in SVG only, and Dojo handles the cross platform issues.


> Just so we're clear, I'm proposing 2 things:
> 1. the SVG to VML translation
> 2. the drawing API

Agreed again.

> Animation for SVG (as implemented in FF) is poor right now--if you're 
> thinking that it will support SMIL-type structures.  However, animation 
> techniques that are used in Dojo for HTML work just fine right now as it 
> is, so I'd advocate not really worrying about that use case as of yet.


> Text manipulation...that's another story.  My instinct is to say we use 
> mixed documents for that always (i.e. embed an HTML element inside an 
> SVG one for text handling, etc)...I'll have better info soon enough as 
> to what's possible in terms of transformations in VML.

While various text effects can be useful, the plain jane unrotated text 
works the best in most cases. I think it would nice to include some HTML 
text positioning facilities so the labels can be placed properly using 
current transformation --- it may be hard to calculate the exact 
placement without a cooperation with dojo.gfx (or whatever it will be 



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